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The Forward actually suggested its readers should pose questions to him about "ethical conundrums!"<BR/><BR/>I hope someone e mails the Dersh w. a question about the continuum of civilianlity.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04532790438563813543noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19959879.post-1157492609293288472006-09-05T14:43:00.000-07:002006-09-05T14:43:00.000-07:00What's kind of strange is that many of the specifi...What's kind of strange is that many of the specific instances of Lebanese civilian casualties shown in the links from this post involve families in convoys shot by helicopter gunships while traveling north to flee southern Lebanon *as advised by the Israelis*.<BR/><BR/>So, not only are a fair number of them going to rate highly even in Dershowitz's calculus of innocence, just by virtue of age and/or lack of involvement with Hizbollah... not only were they killed or injured in a way where the attackers actually had line of sight, unlike for shelling and bombing... but given that they were *complying with Israeli requests to leave the area*, one wonders how Dershowitz could possibly say they were complicit in their own demise?<BR/><BR/>Has anyone confronted the man with cases like these and asked him to come up with scores he can defend, even if his bizarre proposition were valid to begin with?Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09112215621728247275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19959879.post-1157420189141062382006-09-04T18:36:00.000-07:002006-09-04T18:36:00.000-07:00It's easy to make fun of Dershowitz's sliding scal...It's easy to make fun of Dershowitz's sliding scale for civilians but the fact is he's right and you're not. Hezbollah wants civilian casualties in Israel --to terrorize the population and murder Jews-- and wants civilian casualties in Lebanon, too because "the West" --mainly Europe, will blame Israel.<BR/><BR/>Dershowitz's critique of Amnesty International --for defining "war crimes" as any action taken by Israel is also right on the money. It sounds like a ridiculous assertion until you read the report.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19959879.post-1154379928200950002006-07-31T14:05:00.000-07:002006-07-31T14:05:00.000-07:00Do we take character into account in this scale of...Do we take character into account in this scale of killability? For instance, is a nurse less killable than a lawyer? How about a person who has been put in prison to a person who hasn't. Who is more or less "innocent civilian?" How in the world do we quantify innocence?<BR/><BR/>If I am defending myself, as goes Israel's claim to the legitimacy of this violence, then I am legitimized in killing only those who are attacking me. Collateral damage may be inevitable, but it is never excusable. If you punch me, and in defense, I throw a gernade at you, which stops you from punching me, but also kills 3 passer-by's than I have acted irresponsibly. <BR/><BR/>Israel must be prepared to wage this war in such a way as to avoid every possible civilian death. As we have seen, air strikes are proving incapable of this end. They then have a moral obligation to change their actions, or they lose any moral "high ground" they may have had. Ultimately, they need to actually act responsibly, or simply say, "we did what we had to do...civilians be damned," but this having cake and eating it too business is just not cutting it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19959879.post-1154017249472044472006-07-27T09:20:00.000-07:002006-07-27T09:20:00.000-07:00I believe the very concept of "civilian" is obsole...I believe the very concept of "civilian" is obsolete and fails to reflect the reality of the world around us. Wars do not take place between teams of professional athletes, with umpires; wars are fought for the national interest, even the very survival, of the combatant group entities. To be a member of the group is to benefit from its success in war, and to be subject to the risks of war. Should a conquered population be enslaved, or should all the adult males be killed, or should every living thing - man, woman, child, and domestic animal - be slaughtered? It depends. See God's Word (the Bible) for examples of all of these. <BR/><BR/>"Civilian" is a medieval concept and we should accept that it is no longer relevant.mistah charley, ph.d.https://www.blogger.com/profile/06688838931368329855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19959879.post-1153950044172206632006-07-26T14:40:00.000-07:002006-07-26T14:40:00.000-07:00I don't even have a comment, other than to say you...I don't even have a comment, other than to say you are brilliant as usual and all this is too tragic for me to get a grip on. For everyone. 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